tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5672551757871310685.post802421893748579779..comments2023-11-05T02:21:11.529-08:00Comments on Pay Tray: a blog commenter's blog: My ThesesAsherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06495408546806192092noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5672551757871310685.post-73480581222616351122008-12-20T20:36:00.000-08:002008-12-20T20:36:00.000-08:00Oh yeah, RZA's top five for sure, I was just sayin...Oh yeah, RZA's top five for sure, I was just saying those two aren't even GOAT Rap Producer contenders.Asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06495408546806192092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5672551757871310685.post-8416494162362504072008-12-20T19:16:00.000-08:002008-12-20T19:16:00.000-08:00you forgot about RZA in your greatest producer lis...you forgot about RZA in your greatest producer list, and a few others for that matter, i assume they were just examples.<BR/><BR/>if i never hear from papoose again, i will be so happy.bding7https://www.blogger.com/profile/06968707799455497982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5672551757871310685.post-37177928461058857962008-12-20T17:45:00.000-08:002008-12-20T17:45:00.000-08:00Two classic Tribe albums, no question. But if we'r...Two classic Tribe albums, no question. But if we're talking a panacea-style canon, there's always one more you could add to the list.<BR/><BR/>I'd actually take the much-maligned 'Everything is Everything' over Brand Nubian's first album. Not for the canon, just in generalCharlie Hustlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15085783137229495264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5672551757871310685.post-61944228480801523992008-12-20T16:49:00.000-08:002008-12-20T16:49:00.000-08:00Oh, I don't think that list is by any means the be...Oh, I don't think that list is by any means the best list in the world, but there's no doubt that Tribe has two classic albums - whether you have them in your top ten or twenty or whatever's debatable. Personally I'm not a Tribe guy. And I like Puba a lot, even his solo work, but when Breihan was like, "so yeah, Brand Nubian's first album, Luda's first album, Ridin Dirty, that's the canon to me," or when he announced that he wasn't interested in "post-Illmatic rap," I thought, clearly here's a guy who doesn't take rap very seriously. Though he works given our very unserious rap landscape, but as far as telling you where Wayne stacks up in the pantheon, he's deeply mistaken.Asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06495408546806192092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5672551757871310685.post-60980175269582809902008-12-20T11:10:00.000-08:002008-12-20T11:10:00.000-08:00"... but rather guys like Kool Keith and Grand Pub..."... but rather guys like Kool Keith and Grand Puba and Snoop and ODB..."<BR/><BR/>Kool Keith doesn't belong in that group. I would put Keith, Ghostface and Sadat X into that "abstract nonsense but good" rap [begin the 'Wild Cowboys' hating here, but there are a solid five tracks on that album, mostly thanks to Minnisota, who promptly disappeared into the ether of the universe].<BR/><BR/>I'm with on Puba... boo.<BR/><BR/>The canon is pretty dead-on, though you could come up with a lot of stuff to take its place if you went with one Tribe album instead of two (in a row, no less).Charlie Hustlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15085783137229495264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5672551757871310685.post-72255619828632233472008-12-20T06:19:00.000-08:002008-12-20T06:19:00.000-08:00nice post even though i don't share your cynicism ...nice post even though i don't share your cynicism about 99% of current rap. on-point especially with the whole label conspiracy vs. shitty music thing.Trey Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589006200813108939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5672551757871310685.post-67337970236483642002008-12-19T17:49:00.000-08:002008-12-19T17:49:00.000-08:00Nice. I don't think I'm as on-canon as you but thi...Nice. I don't think I'm as on-canon as you but this is a really nice manifesto. Everyone should write one. <BR/><BR/>The stuff about the rappers complaining they couldn't have possibly made a good song with Nat Dogg is spot on. If "lesser" rapper can do it without breaking a sweat then they ought to be knocking it out of the park. Unfortunately most (like Nas) of them really don't understand what they ought to be doing with music.Beezer Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06991699906256197973noreply@blogger.com